The 2nd Annual Conference in Honor of Robert Jervis 

“The Dark State? Government Secrecy and American Democracy” 

 

Friday, April 19, 2024 

School of International and Public Affairs 

Columbia University in the City of New York 

View the recording of the conference HERE.

Download the conference program HERE.

Presented by the Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies (SIWPS), the Institute of Global Politics (IGP), the Institute for Social and Economic Research and Policy (ISERP), and the Public Interest Declassification Board (PIDB) 

Named in honor of one of the modern era’s most significant international relations scholars, the  Conference in Honor of Robert Jervis is Columbia’s premier international security conference.  For its inaugural year in 2023, speakers included Derek Chollet, Avril Haines, Colin Kahl, and  Jacob Lew, for a discussion on today’s competitive geopolitical landscape. 

This year’s conference will address the need for reform of America’s system for protecting state  secrets. In cooperation with the bipartisan Public Interest Declassification Board, we are bringing  together constitutional experts, journalists, members of the intelligence community, the tech  community, and academics to debate and discuss the system of protecting sensitive security  information and ensuring the public’s right to know what officials do in their name. 

 

Conference Schedule: 

9:30am: Light Breakfast 

10:15am-10:30am: Welcome and Introduction

Featuring:

Page Fortna, Director, Arnold A. Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies; Harold Brown Professor of U.S. Foreign and Security Policy, Department of Political Science, Columbia University

Keren Yarhi-Milo, Dean, School of International and Public Affairs; Adlai E. Stevenson Professor of International Relations, Columbia University

10:30am-12:00pm: Panel I: The Law of Secrecy 

Panel Description: There is a contradiction at the core of our constitutional system. Presidents need to be able to act  “with secrecy, and dispatch.” But representative government requires a well-informed electorate,  and Congress must check any abuse of power. How is either possible if presidents are sovereign in deciding what constitutes national security information and who can have access to it? The  question has never been fully addressed in court, and without knowing the answer it is unclear  what Congress can do, and whether journalists and whistleblowers may face new legal jeopardy. 

Featuring:

Heidi Kitrosser, William W. Gurley Professor of Law, Northwestern Law

David Pozen, Charles Keller Beekman Professor of Law, Columbia Law 

Ben Wizner, Director, Speech, Privacy, and Tech Project, ACLU

Moderated by: 

Carter Burwell, Counsel, Debevoise & Plimpton LLP

12:00pm-1:00pm: Lunch 

1:00pm-2:30pm: Panel II: The Use and Misuse of Artificial Intelligence to Manage Dangerous Information 

Panel Description: New information technology could help address the notorious problem of over-classification,  accelerating the review and release of a large backlog of information the public has a right to  know. At the same time, the newest kinds of AI, like large language models, can increase  vulnerabilities, such as empowering bad actors with unprecedented access to dangerous  information. What are the policy tradeoffs and long-term implications of using technology in  managing national security information? 

Featuring:

Camille Francois, Lecturer of International and Public Affairs, SIPA

Carmen Medina, Owner, MedinAnalytics LLC

Hanna Wallach, Partner Research Manager at Microsoft Research

Moderated by: 

Sue Halpern, Author; Journalist; Former Staff Writer, The New Yorker

2:30pm-2:45pm: Break

2:45pm-4:15pm: Panel III: The Crisis of Overclassification: Can Proposed Reforms Help? 

Panel Description: Presidents have long been able to set the rules for defining and protecting national security information through executive orders. But the complexity and scope of the contemporary national security apparatus has long defied attempts to reduce overclassification, and the number and size of leaks continue to grow. What new measures now under consideration could make a meaningful difference, and what more should citizens expect from their government?

Featuring:

Michael Collins, Chair, National Intelligence Council

Joe Lambert, Former Director for Information Management Services, CIA

Tim Naftali, Senior Research Scholar and Adjunct Professor, Columbia SIPA; Member, Department of State Historical Advisory Committee

Moderated by: 

Elizabeth Saunders, Professor of Political Science, Columbia University

4:15pm-4:45pm: Roundtable with Special Guests: Reflections on What We Have Learned 

Featuring:

Carter Burwell, Counsel, Debevoise & Plimpton LLP

Sue Halpern, Author; Journalist; Former Staff Writer, The New Yorker

Elizabeth Saunders, Professor of Political Science, Columbia University

Moderated by: 

Matthew Connelly, Professor of International and Global History, Columbia University; Author, The Declassification Engine: What History Reveals About America’s Top Secrets 

4:45pm: Closing Remarks

V. Page Fortna, Director, Arnold A. Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies; Harold Brown Professor of U.S. Foreign and Security Policy, Department of Political Science, Columbia University

4:50pm-6:00pm: Reception